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Post by x141 on Mar 30, 2012 0:30:04 GMT
All things reveal a Truth that in it's own confines leads us back to One/Father. We as a person reveal the three feasts of God, Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles. Flesh, Soul, and Spirit. These three unfold in every unamaginable way in scripture and all around us. Going by numerous names all pituring the same thing (God is not divided, he does not deny Himself). They are woven into the very fabric of this existence all of it pointing the way back to where we came from, and this to find all along who we have been known of him to be. There is a sending forth/passover and a point in time/pentecost and then a returning/tabernacles. We are at Gilgal now, the place of the turning. He is calling us up/in. He is about to gather us unto himself. This is all within us. This captivity will be the liberation into Life of all things.
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Post by x141 on Mar 30, 2012 2:45:03 GMT
The realites of these feasts move in and out of each other in a complex rythm to form the picture of this union because they are all of One. We are all of One.
The one thing that is an aboslute, our mind, the richman, can not percieve the things of God, it can not know them. Paul said we have the mind of Christ and he is right but this mind is IN CHRIST. The life of our soul/woman is this Holy Seed, who we are. He who has the bride is the bridegroom and this bridegroom is in you. This is the Life that swallows up death.
God told me eighteen years ago "I have laid twelve stones in your land, the inhabitance of the land are afraid of you"
Everyday the heavens open to me, everyday I see more and more into that which was before the world was. Everyday my earth becomes more and more without form and void. Jesus was born of a woman, in the likeness of sinful flesh, but Mary, the woman, did not lie down with a beast/man, she was seeded from within just as the first earth. A light called out of darkness, a son called out of Eygpt.
This feast, Tabernacles, is the sum of all the feasts, it is the day of Rest, the seventh day, a day with no light, a place of time/separation no longer. The Table that is prepared is in the midst of us, eveyone of us. This place is the kingdom come. In us. We are ever present with him. He in us, us in him, him in the Father. We are all of one.
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Post by noxot on Mar 30, 2012 2:45:20 GMT
you know I have always had a hard time with even trying to find a difference between soul and spirit. i got told the soul is the house of the spirit.
i know in the bible, a long time ago i was taught about the flesh, soul, and spirit of the word.
really i was at a loss for exactly when i heard the soul meaning and when i heard the spirit meaning.
and when i think about it, its like... the flesh meaning seems often pure spirit. and then sometimes I look at something and i understand it is spiritual and I don't really see flesh. and I know Christ is the flesh.
the spiritual is hard to understand. you really have to be in the spirit to understand the spirit. God had always shown me that his word looks like it contradicts itself.
it has been to long, i have been held down by evil spirits long enough. Christ will save me from them all. so many chains. all kinds of lies. I want to be able to see God so clearly, I know what he tells us! he is going to crush everything. everything is going to be made plain for his elect. the mountains, everything.
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Post by stein on Mar 30, 2012 6:10:53 GMT
hey i just found this topic, gonna read it later today, its still early here..
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Post by x141 on Mar 30, 2012 12:18:37 GMT
Consider my servant Job. Who is the Lord, who is satan, who are the sons of god. Job is a book that which is within even as the whole of all things are within. Our mind is that which measures just as our Father's soul measured. While scanning through scripture, peeling back the pages to make them fly by, I caught a glimpse, out of the corner of my eye (the turning to look and it was gone is a turning back into the wilderness : ) I saw where God said they had become as one of us. But what I saw the Father say was, What happened to us has happened to them.
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Post by x141 on Mar 30, 2012 13:05:12 GMT
It takes two points of reference to find any One destination. In reality, all the points, together are a matter of perspective if you take any of the two, it will always lead you One. The way back is revealed in all things yet all things are as they were before they were. In the begining God created the heavens and the earth, the two that would lead us back to One. Of which this contradiction in scripture is everywhere, two cannot walk as One unless they agree. But understand that the word God in Genesis is the most stripped down naked name for God, you might as well have said the Policeman created the heavens and the earth. From here the gender walk begins (in type). The journey is like a man going into a far countryt, this is the carrying away into babylon.
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Post by stein on Mar 30, 2012 21:10:00 GMT
shall we let each other know when it is feast? i mean when you are on a feast, what r u on, it can be many things on your mind. sometimes is it about jesus not?
tell me which feast for what again and what does it resemble?
becuase we can talk much about it if we want to.
if you had to choose between babylon and a better fundament i said.
better fundament ofcourse, or you tell me if you ever saw babylon stand today. i'd keep it up if its clear enogough by all thats said...not?
theres other feast though and really i do know what some are about. and if you can get me feasting that is good, good you got me to know.
when is the next celebration, and do you know any?
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Post by x141 on Mar 30, 2012 23:00:54 GMT
It is always about the Father and Son as in relationship to us all as His sons even as Jesus was his son. This is to be met without measure. To have no measure is to take no thought.
All feasts have a duality about them except Tabernacles, the Truth of this feast is Jesus the Christ. The Truth is "I am" for you, for me for all who bear the image of the earthly. Tabernacles is the seventh feast, Rest, a day that has no night. You see this in the reality of the mind or bride of Christ (heavenly Jersusalem). My focus is this One that Jesus called Father, our Father. From whom all blessings flow.
The end of the feast of pentecost is tabernacles. This truth is layed out all over scripture. All these things testfy of only one who is the eighth.
An example of the three feasts can be seen when Jesus said, In that day you shall know that I am in my Father and I am in you and you are in me. The feasts represent a Truth that is all of One. Father.
Babylon is between our ears, her desolation unveils the Bride.
If I were to pick what best revelaed babylon in the natural realm it would be America and her destruction has been slumbering for a long time and is about to awaken. But I don't care for these things, my eye is single, my focus all on one. But there will soon be a great distress as the manna ceases in the wilderness due to those who eat of the fruit of the land. This is how the harlot becomes the habitation of every foul thing. This will bring the world to the brink. But then shall many saviours come up upon mont zion. But again I am not concerned with these things, I find them just another disrtraction.
Duality in scripture causes us to come to an agreement with our enemy (all this is within) just as our son of perdition is for us a man who tills the ground, the one who is more subtle than any beast of the field.
Years of things to say but only a moment to say them in. I have learned more in one day than I have in my entire thritytwo years of hard study. He can teach us in ten mintues more than every one who has ever lived could teach us in a life time, he is revealed in the moment and we are revealed.
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Post by noxot on Mar 30, 2012 23:22:02 GMT
I remember the tower fell. what can this mean? because the church is also a tower. so it looks like it falls. but what does it mean that the tower fell and then there were tongues all divide?
Gen 11:4 (YLT) (11:4) And they say, `Give help, let us build for ourselves a city and tower, and its head in the heavens, and make for ourselves a name, lest we be scattered over the face of all the earth.' (11:5) And Jehovah cometh down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men have builded; (11:6) and Jehovah saith, `Lo, the people is one, and one pronunciation is to them all, and this it hath dreamed of doing; and now, nothing is restrained from them of that which they have purposed to do. (11:7) Give help, let us go down, and mingle there their pronunciation, so that a man doth not understand the pronunciation of his companion.' (11:8) And Jehovah doth scatter them from thence over the face of all the earth, and they cease to build the city; (11:9) therefore hath one called its name Babel, for there hath Jehovah mingled the pronunciation of all the earth, and from thence hath Jehovah scattered them over the face of all the earth.
I see the stones of the tower going out through the entire world and more cities and towers greater than the first is built.
Luke 13:4-5 (YLT) (13:4) `Or those eighteen, on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them; think ye that these became debtors beyond all men who are dwelling in Jerusalem? (13:5) No--I say to you, but, if ye may not reform, all ye in like manner shall perish.'
18 is the number for Jesus Christ, the first 2 numbers/letters of his name in the greek. 10 and 8. iota ( I 10 ) and eta ( H 8 )
they are dwelling in Jerusalem. they were debtors, like the man that was loaned the axe. if you do not reform then what your judgment is, is that you will in like manner perish. because God Loves everyone. and all shall die so that all will live. because the ways of men are not like the ways of God and so the tower must be made complete, and only in Christ is the tower complete.
but why did it fall? we fall on people to kill them, because we are the Church and we know God Loves all.
was it a punishment that God made more languages? no rather it was all part of his plan to make all of us "increase and multiply" because God Loves us and gives to us all things of Him.
but when we do not understand each other, we stop building. but God is His Grace and Love! and He crushes the head of the serpent. and brains and all kinds of serpent head fall everywhere and we know that the serpent "subtile above every beast of the field which Jehovah God hath made"
and Christ is a serpent, as it speaks in the word much that that is a type of him. Christ the bronze serpent that saves us from the fiery serpents.
and this Exod 4:1-5 (YLT) (4:1) And Moses answereth and saith, `And, if they do not give credence to me, nor hearken to my voice, and say, Jehovah hath not appeared unto thee?' (4:2) And Jehovah saith unto him, `What is this in thy hand?' and he saith, `A rod;' (4:3) and He saith, `Cast it to the earth;' and he casteth it to the earth, and it becometh a serpent--and Moses fleeth from its presence. (4:4) And Jehovah saith unto Moses, `Put forth thy hand, and lay hold on the tail of it;' and he putteth forth his hand, and layeth hold on it, and it becometh a rod in his hand-- (4:5) `--so that they believe that Jehovah, God of their fathers, hath appeared unto thee, God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and God of Jacob.'
you notice God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob. 3. we can prove to egypt that the OT is from God, and then they will get closer to God. because we are servants of God. "Moses fleeth from its presence." Moses is the Church and our babies do not understand the feast and that God is good. they call evil good and good evil. they are confused children and are in chains.
but God saves all of us from chains of the lies that have ensnared us and we are His slaves.
and behold Christ uses all things for our good.
but behold there is a knowledge that is clean in Christ and it speaks about a lion being good and a lion being bad. but there is a higher thing as the soul is not higher than the spirit. and the Spirit is Love and the light from it blinds and it looks like a darkness. but the right and left try to ensnare us. but we go forward following Christ, who heals us. as we see his back and "by His stripes we are healed".
but now I see nothing, all I see is that God is. but I never leave nor do i forsake my servants. i'm weak, I need God to help me. and I saw yesterday for a split second, fire all in the sky and i had a dream and I bumped into my friend in the dark and I love him my bridegroom. he was facing me but it was all dark and many other things in the dream happened.... and the vision never ends as it is in the vision of Isaiah, a constant Holy Holy Holy, the Lord and the 2 seraphim are always with us who are called the bride of Christ.
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Post by noxot on Mar 30, 2012 23:42:40 GMT
when is the next celebration, and do you know any? no idea, i just know there are a lot! what do you know? can you even say? I want to walk naked in the garden with my Lord. and I know it is constant I suppose?
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Post by stein on Mar 31, 2012 12:00:04 GMT
i can be natural when i walk with jesus or god for eternitys and so many more to walk with. yews the serpent mozes kept high and held it in the air for the people to see, dont ask me all.. now the people where bitten right, by snakes and they were poisened. then when they looked at the snail up in the sky and kept they're eyes on it for some time, thay shall bo ok and no longer poisenned. for who was to be kept up high and what can be kept up high? what is up high? lots can be on top of the mind.. much more too.. but its got to be kept positive or what is kept up high wont be alright and maybe feel terribly lonesome, or bad as in sense. one most remain under control after having seen the bronze/coper snake/serpent. one must realise there is much more up that we aint even looking at enough directly while understandingn what all is. i am intresting in looking into the parts where the word farao is spoken. in some book. or another. ow, imagine it all as good as you can ok. these things of moses....x and jesus too!...x and isaak too, and....x the rest too.x
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Post by x141 on Mar 31, 2012 14:02:20 GMT
There is so much here, in what both of you have wrote. It is the ever present Truth that we are seeing as our leaves are cast. The tower of babel is a pulpit of confusuion, caused by the Truth cast down. This is seen in the garden, it was the knowledge of God that drove man from the garden, Truth from our soul. The land/soul that does not have rest/death/the losing of/every thought into obedience of, vomits us out, (of the land), who we have all along have been known to be, "I am" Son of the Father. The one who is many and the many who are are all of One/Father.
There is a gathering within us, bringing us, all our stones/thoughts/children into one, a gathering of us unto Himself, this Himself that Jesus said the father would glorfiy him with.
The temptaion in the wilderness/mind/soul of Jesus was within him. The serpent/adam/image wanted him to prove that he was this one and only son of God.
The calling up by a woman/soul/mind of the spirit of the dead prophet is the same as turning a stone/image into bread/life. The food Jesus was fasting and hungry for was the Father/Life. When we do not try to turn this understanding of who we are or what we have seen, to call up the spirit of the prophet, in our mind then the tree yeilds it's fruit. Jesus, that day by not eating ate of the Father.
The perception of the two sons, good/evil are of the woman due to the law of sin and death that is her husband, a beast who tills the field.
I as you both have seen much. What we have seen yesterday we must not by the woman try to ressurrect in our mind. It becomes confusion, a wandering, a truning back into the wilderness of our mind.
We have five teachers, this woman, we have five brothers this man. The bondwoman and her son are not partakers of the promise. Our teachers are becoming a word cast behind us, the cloth of a menstrous/unclean woman that teaches us the left and the right, the good and the evil and how we should walk. They are not hid in a corner any longer. The woman is the wilderness, holy place of moses tabernacle where the abonmination that makes desolate is. This the image that provkes to jealousy, the image of the bondwoman and her son, aseed of a serpent.
The truth of Jesus' blood is not the image we have made it to be. Neither is the man of sin, the beast that all those who are not written in the Lamb's book of life wander after. The whole of these thing are happening in us. The universe that is inside each of us. There is no height, depth, width, length etc. etc. etc. other than what our woman, who is to keep silent in the church and not to teach or usurp authority, measures them to be. Our son, who we are is of the Father, no beginning, no end. We change not.
This jerusalem/woman/mind will not allow us to be gathered into one, therefore her house is left to her desolate. The wandering must end.
This will not be found in the present day church system as it was not found inthe city that Cain/femine built, this tower of confusion, good son bad son. It will be found without the camp to the liberation of all things, both within and without and this without measure.
I am really joyful that The Sons of God/noxot/xounstaer have brought me to this place of fellowship.
Not many seek after him.
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Post by stein on Mar 31, 2012 15:05:03 GMT
wow, ok what am i to say to this.
there good and bad if you want for sure yes. and we are all part of the whole without doubt at any time as we believe or hope.
it is goo di guess to pay some attention to what doesnt seem good in order to make that good to. i seen no harm in this and sure dont intend. but thinking of each human being a person unconditionally as we know people and ourselves.
standing on the fact of love saying every part of the female is to be handeled tenderly and not negatively i choose. it is not just love that makes itself, thinkin gof something wrong then. it would keep me thinking forever just for me; 'be good'.
but we are good there is no single natural aspect of any human being that tells its bad. thsi is by nature though, the thinking about the aspects in whatever way is a next step in which woman and man mey grow toward eacht other, not. as we better each other, even altering eachother, and once be as one.
as in a bound/ a marriage. thsi is fundemantalistic i think. for jesus i guess it is the base of his act.
and not te ruin anything at all. as we must love not each other as every one does but we must love our enemy etcetera.
sacrifising is past tense and will be remmbered in my heart intensly. to never forget him i took everything i could into the picture.
i can speak as one being from above, and its been like that longer and before.
i'll talk if theres something i have to tell you. when i dont i sure work on it. even if its just for me.
but also to be known is that more then half of the best good hasnt come to stage yet...
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Post by x141 on Mar 31, 2012 15:17:16 GMT
Male female are all pictures of Truth that is beyond our mind to percieve, only when we lose our own thoughts, to whatever extent this is, do we see Truth as it is in Christ, in us.
You will find in the OT that when God spoke to a prophet (outside of Samuel), and told them to go and tell what he said, it never comes out the way God told them. When Moses received the pattern Son in the heavens, this law of Life, when he brought it down into the earth it became the law of sin and death, (two sons, heavenly, earthly, life, death), the Truth cast down. Samuel’s words did not fall to the ground. Adam was the first to prophesy that a man will leave his Father and his Mother and will cleave unto His wife for the reason that this is where the woman came from to begin with. We do cleave unto our wife and she as long as she is in the days of her separation is unclean. This is what we cleave to. The soul/tree of knowledge and the children/angels of our perception both good and evil. This latter is seen with Jacob, the one with a duel nature. He steals the birth but returns to the one he stole it from. The two agree. His angels that descended and ascended went by steps. Jesus’ connection to the heavens have no steps. Coming to him by steps is where our nakedness is uncovered. Jesus agreed with his enemy, the two coordinates so to speak, the two that are summed up in the One. Here Moses’ tabernacle can be pictured as us, we must move past the holy place, past out thoughts to the place before the world was. This is within us and what is about to swallow up all things into one through us by us.
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Post by noxot on Mar 31, 2012 18:35:35 GMT
i know Jesus agreed with his enemy, because he loves his enemy. i just want my child to hurry up and do what he is supposed to do. I mean, i gave him a lot of fame. but still I don't know what kind of similitude this could be. or where i am from.
So I don't know, but I know what i want, i want jesus.... its not a sin...
but i don't know everything that all of you say perfectly, its like I am masked from some of it... I don't know if I masked myself or if I was going it for more grace or for a faster end.
but really I took upon me the sins of tarturus and I came here so that my angels I incarnated in this end age can also be the end of this age like it was in the flood.
I mean, I know i'm steps... its just I want my brothers to hurry up and live... I want God though, i think I only look after them, since martha and mary are the same woman. mary at the feet, martha about doing things.
but listen. I have 2 large breast. and i have 2 small breast and I put honey on them for my babies. we both love all our children.
but I don't really grasp fully what a lot of what i said means, just that I know my lord because I felt him in the darkness. and he is my friend. its pointing to higher and higher things as always but... if we could just hurry for this age to end then I can be in better peace with all... which is what I want. God in all with none going to lesser route of themselves anymore, but of God first.
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Post by x141 on Mar 31, 2012 22:05:51 GMT
We all have many sons/children/thoughts that are summed up in our one son who is in the Father, our soul there mother. This is immeasurable because we are femine to the one Son as well, whole and each individual and each individual son a father with a mother and children who are one times ten thousand times ten thousand, you get the picture, a kingdom each of us with increase that has no end.
I know you both know these things, for he is in you as he is me, to this fullness but I will say this nevertheless, You must read words in the spirit to see, it is a tapestry.
Words read by the soul become measured and a wandering, a snare, you must not eat/touch the unclean thing, why?
Because this is what God said. His words became a snare, a serpent in our the path. Just as they were His. we are as he is. We are a stone that the serpent in our path wants us to make into the bread of Life. This is all of the soul. Here our angels/children/thoughts/sons/Son are both good and evil Seeded by the serpent/adam/beast/image of jealousy, the Truth cast down into the earth. These are all the same things, they are not separate. The earth is femine like the land, it is our soul.
But it does not end here, he does not leave us like this.
For our angels/messenges/spirit etc. when they asend and descend by steps they are unclean. When there is no latter the two sons have become one, by the death of the tree of knowledge/fig tree/ soul we become clean by this becoming One, this is a turning/returning/ascending/ an is not, within. Two came out of the garden but only one returns.
With all this said here a city can not be built or you, me , us we go no further and begin peddling dove's dung and asses head.
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Post by noxot on Apr 1, 2012 1:25:14 GMT
I Am created and uncreated. the shape, no shape. i love her. look, I love you all.
remember we went really high, and now I see all is well, because you keep calling me. and the temptation, one says this is evil and the other it says. I AM that I AM, you do not stumble.
part of the plan of Love for someone: i made that machine so that you can remember who I am. you could never escape, you could only pretend to escape, for a fun. but come here now, we save them my way and not yours. i'm here lord, thank you for accepting me. me, I know who i am in him, but here in this age, I don't know Him right when I look away.
the gospels are here in me, Christ is the book of life! always keep speaking whatever God gives you! or whatever God says that you do. Him, only Him!
more gospel: I have a feeling she is saved in this age too, as her falling away from me, noxot a son, caused me much pain and turmoil. i can speak plainly, I see all of you in me. but not all the way yet. but i'm pretending, because I was gonna do something with the Lord that I don't remember. but His plan is very good. His ways are higher than mine. i love Him, always the best for me. for all of us.
we are here and there. we are everywhere. and we are always with him.
but I know this, I am not gonna not be with you Lord, not of my own, but you Lord, Jesus help me my enemies they are foolish and want me to descend with them but I want with you Lord.
and now it makes sense. when i get better, when others get better. more and more are pulled. it is the Lord in the Spirit that calls. but I am light and fire, they catch on fire, because really I am that I Am, their reality, my so-called enemies, is that they are cold. but I even made cold good in its time.
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Post by x141 on Apr 4, 2012 2:16:25 GMT
Here's an answer to a question posed to me and a firend of mine. I'll post what he asked ...
I have been thinking about something you guys said lately. I have heard it before but usually by some messianic group. Allow me to use wording which may be inaccurate to ask the question but look at the concept I want to know about. Many seem to think Paul was a deceiver and misled people by his teachings. I have even heard he wanted to create his own movement. Is this your position and why? I would also like to know the connection between the epistles and bondage in the "church" today. Some go as far to say all the NT itself is deceptive and we should use the "scripture Jesus used."
I don't think I can tie your thoughts about this to how you normally use types and symbols, please keep that in mind should you choose to answer.
Here's my point of view. Truth will never connect to the carnal mind focused on the body identity. Jesus knew Himself as Spirit and He knew the body He lived in was to be sacrificed. Paul knew this about Him and himself as spirit. Peter, James and John lived with Jesus and they certainly knew this as well. I believe there is bondage because the carnal mind is the enemy of God and ours, but not because Paul had devious plans. Here in Texas there is an old saying, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. That's what we have here in concept.
Now, on the other hand, I can't really speak to Paul's motives but I do see his insight into the reality of the Spirit domain. This I appreciate about the writings of the NT. df
No. There's alot here. I'm not a teacher, so with that in mind ... Paul was just like us, as was Jesus, which of course is where it gets interesting. The relationship between male and female, not gender, but a picture of soul and spirit is of great importance. Nakedness is a garden that is not enclosed. The woman outside of the man. This is the first garden, when a woman bears a woman, in picture. Understand that each seeing or viewing where the word opens to you that you see rather than hear by the hearing of the ear keeps expanding. Expands the reality of where you and who you really are. Our woman is unclean. The 1st born, masculine, my son I call out of Egypt, when they get into the wilderness she turns into the femine. This is babylon, a wandering etc. Again do not measure these words, even as I write these things it is opening further and I can't write what I actually saw already. Jesus was a garden enclosed. He was in the Father. Paul believed we were in Christ but when He wrote down that which (all the world) could not contain; it became a word cast down, an image and a likeness. At the same time what happened to Jesus at the river Jordan is what you see as the Dove descending and abiding is the heavenly Jerusalem. Mind you that the entirety of the Book of Revelation is a picture form of the revealing of the Father in the Son and in his sons sons, kingdom without end and all this inside each and everyone of us. The wilderness is a picture of the woman and the wandering again is the carrying away into Babylon, here the fruit of the tree, the two mountains etc. This is also the feast of Pentecost, a realm where there is still leaven, a perception, a salvation yet with is. After the sacrifice you move into this wandering. A vale parts and you move into the wilderness. Here is where Peter and the rest of them till now have found themselves, encluding us. Eighteen years ago I seen these things, but the time was not yet. This is the beginning of that. This is the sending forth, the returning is the place of a garden enclosed. But understand that this has always been a reality, a place of I change not. The end is the 2nd circumcision, the vale that parts to reveal the holy of holiness, our identity, a city that descends but for us comes out of heaven. Jesus equated in the Father as being in heaven, a garden enclosed. Presently, In Truth this is where we are. Paul and them could not see the garden enclosed, because they saw two sons, a wandering. In the wandering there is meat from heaven and flesh of the earth. You can even see a lusting after of these things and God provides but doesn't chastise and the next time he provides and then chastises. These are the masculine and femine attributes. In the masculine there is no sin, because the garden is enclosed, in picture. This is the heavenly Jerusalem, the mind of Christ, not Jesus, the mind of the Father. This is , as it was for Jesus, the garden that is enclosed.
Honestly, the more I write the more I see and the more I see the more I can't write, yet the Truth is not measured and these words are, no matter what I do. It is a source outside of the Spirit of Truth, Spirit of the Father that as Jesus, is in you, me in everybody, period. Captivity comes in all forms, some sins go before, some sins follow behind. Bondage is brought about by taking things in from without and making them your thoughts, children. Paul himself if you watch his writings you'll see he begins to bring people under the law. The law is not the levitacl law, it is much more than this. The law of sin and death, this bondage is the femine realm, the realm of the soul. Though the pattern of the two sons, two laws are here I will not go further with this. People caught up in the church are still pursuing a God that is without; they can not hear these things due to their captivity, just as the Pharisees. If these start opening to them they find it harder and harder to stay in Babylon. Not the church where they hang out and rub elbows at, Babylon is the unclean woman that is between there ears. Jesus became the serpent on the cross, you live but a serpent is your focus. It does not mean they are not sincere, but they have believed a lie. They wander after the beast, the man of sin Jesus became on the cross. Just like the woman, they believe they are on a path to attain to something, this is law. This beast causes the mark on the hands and the forehead. This perception is not in the Book from before the foundations of the world, where Jesus returned to, where we are presently at, without this mark you can't by sell or trade, just like the bond woman and her son are not partakers of the promise, just a picture, not about Hagar and her kid.
Being that the feast of tabernacles is now beginning is the reason for our sight being restored. To me all things testify of Him not just scripture, but the serpent is more subtle than any beast of the field. We like he and Paul's temptation is being in flesh, where Jesus' woman was clean, are is not. We move through feasts even as he did. His woman became clean at the Jordan. I can write down a smidgen of what I see in this. Bit I know this, even as John came to realize, we all have one that leads us and this like the white stone, a garden enclosed has a name written that no man knows except him that receives it, this is what Jesus was referring to when he said that the Father will also glorify him/Jesus in Himself.
There are those who will turn back in the day of visitation, or turn back into the wilderness or have their inheritance in the wilderness where the altar is bloodless. These are the two seeds that are beginning to be revealed. But we must remember that this was finished before it began, we all came from one Father who as it seems hid his face from us, even as now our face is hid from creation.
So, again, no Paul wasn't a bad guy it's just what the unclean woman has made of the truth as she did in the garden, when she was separated.
If this jumbled mess needs further unscrambling, just let me know.
What I like about all these things is that they are in each of us to the fullness of the Son but right now they appear to be measured due to our woman that is unclean, anything she touches becomes unclean.
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Post by noxot on Apr 4, 2012 22:03:38 GMT
eternal gospel page 93857238974239478264978263. really really there is no need to read this, God can tell you directly, just if you need some faith or something. you know I just give more things that anyone can handle, its the way i am, and how we are becoming. I wish i could compress it all to a few words. I could I guess. but it does not revel/reveal the things I try to point out. here are the few words. "God is Love". not that even a billion words point it out. and know its hard to read a lot of things, heck i got no clue why I even typed all this, i kind of learned a lot from it though. its like, a lot of different already dead but really still living assisted me with this, as we are the church and more than the church. it forms who I am becoming, you see we are all brothers and sisters, and we help each other to make each other unique and yet still all in all, in one sense or another. so ok the reason i guess i say all this is because, you have not all read what i read, and I have not read what you read, and so what i share in compressed form, is here to make a quicker end to this age.
a long time ago i learned that words that are spoken are spoken by the spirit. to try to use my soul to reduce the spirit to an image is folly. the spirit even makes contradictions on purpose to show folly that they need to be humble and seek God out instead of judge this or that group as the one they should follow based on the things that they think they see and know, but they are caught with chains. honestly, paul is not higher or lower than me. I would say, no one is my Father but my Father. but the spirit foreseeing that so many would still trip over everything, as they are what i would call "younger", they were put into chains for their safety I suppose. just think, those children are pauls if they want to be subject to paul, but when the fullness comes for those under paul, they will be free.
for me, I pass through a lot of things, as i guess all of us do. they are all tutors. but now we have the Father of lights. i'm married to the Father. now for the sake of those I care about, I would like to put into light that Jesus Christ is fully God, I mean, His flesh was different as was already said. different than me or x141, in that this was God purely coming here, as He is always the highest. "The Most High" himself came in his own body that he made, as he is first in all things, he has to be, He is the Father.
but we no longer know Jesus Christ after the flesh.
but the images of paul follows the shadow of paul right? but Jesus Christ came here to show us what we are, like he is in all things. Wisdom, Behemoth ect.
but my God! never did we want the children to marry someone, now we have to train them in another place, if they die that way. but really its all part of the plan as I said, they are younger than us. its just my children should see, to follow God only, as this is where I am at, though i don't mind having children, this age is one of those that, you can progress a lot in my view, though i can't wait for the light to come, this age is in "darkness", I know my Lord wanted me to go through it for my next "progression" with him but I already just want to be more with him in what i call "light", but my Lord says that he has some more things to do here. I even can't die, like, i got no clue if i'm gonna get killed in the flesh by people, or if i'm gonna be here until light comes to this age.
but this is a jubliee, its kind of like a celebration where many of our children get to be with the Father now. but don't you see why i want the light to come? its just that... we always create more, so then how can all created be smmed up in this age? the answer is that, they are not but that this age last forever, first in darkness, as we are first but then after in light.
since we always progress more... which is why, in light I know it is better to be, just that I wish also i knew why God wanted this place in darkness/forgetfullness/ect" to a degree at first, I think maybe because this age was just recently created. I mean, i too wanted to bare my children in darkness, and in light, in different kinds of ways, as we like our children to progress to Father in all kinds of different ways, not all the same. you can see that by how you see the many different things in this world, as it is in this similitude of a world, so it is with how we do things forever and ever. and more and more.....
ok sorry for seeming weird but, one last thing... the NT show pretty plain how things are for us, i mean that, who we are.... it show plain how we always do some things, talking about not in this age, but all the things we do...
now again i can almost say that this darkness we are in, is almost like a huge compression of light, and so it looks dark. when the light comes, its gonna show that all we did here, was a type and shadow for the things we will do... in some kind of way... its weird. just that we are getting to the point of getting past having little bubbles of different realities... and are fixing to come into something more. that is why this place is darkness.... its just light that is really bright.... you see, with Father, our lover, who lets me preach the eternal gospel, has a place that is different than all we have went through so far, this... "and more" and more and more we are coming to light in this age. as you see we are as mothers to all here in this earth.
its like, all that we are, all that we did with God so far, was just a darkness compared to what we are fixing to be, as you can see that we are the last ones here on the earth... its because we are the ones in this part, closest to God ( in an image ), though.... not that me or you have any kind of pride... because we know there are seen and unseen things. me, i'm kind of... seen and unseen, but I don't know who i am yet. and honestly, i get jealous, really jealous, if anyone else here does not get that, i'm the church, and also that i'm the mother of the entire age. but its weird because in this age, we are all the mothers of this age. i would have not been ready if I did not understand that you are also my brothers and sisters. just... i'm not used to sharing.... but you are my brothers and sisters, and this age, we share this age forever.. get it? the test for us is not so much doing something, as if we did we would die, but the test for us is, to prove to ourselves that we are ready for the next thing with our Lord. lol its the same for all souls here, in their different stages that they are at.
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Post by x141 on Apr 6, 2012 20:33:23 GMT
I thought you all would like the e-mail conversation and I'm sure identify with it.
Man Scott there is a lot in this email I will have to read it several mores times... There is so much here that is good. As you unveiled what you were saying, I kept saying "Oh yeah, that's good" In a message dated 4/5/2012 2:32:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, secretofnym@cox.net writes: To be in something is to be the femine in relationship of the one you are in. For something to be in you is to be the masculine in relationship to the one who is in you. All this is in relationship to every thought, every son of the Father who is the covering of us all. Moses was in the mount, the law of the spirit of life, when he came down from the mount he became the law of sin and death. When Sarah's son was circumcised she became clean and saw the bondwoman and her son as mocking the Truth. Her words became clean to Abraham in the casting out of the bondwoman. She had become a garden enclosed. The first woman's words that Adam harkened to were unclean. I write in the language I see and He, the Spirit of the Father that leads us within each of us will cause us to eat freely, any tree of the garden. It is the unclean woman who labors to bring forth, or calls up the spirit of a dead prophet, or indeed, turns stones into bread. If you refuse to do this it becomes meat to you. The Father himself feeds you. The language of God is such that if you hold on to anything (the femine/soul/land, etc.) it hinders you from seeing any further. It becomes a city that you name. Here your journey ends no matter how far you have come. It's in the place of Take no thought that the heavens open within you and like Jesus we are taught of the Father. This is past the holy place, past the soul. To touch this with your mind makes it unclean. Words that are clean have no depth, height, etc. An unclean word is a measured word and is of the woman who is not enclosed. I believe we are in unprecedented times, where the Sons of God are going to become manifest, yet it will come without observation, a suddenness and all thoughts less than one will be washed away. This is not of that which is without, for here a great darkness and consuming will be. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dusty Farrell To: JCLMWest@aol.com ; secretofnym@cox.net Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: I sent this just a bit ago ...
We can't turn the Truth spigot on at will, the Spirit of Truth Himself leads us and guides us therein. However, I have always found Him ready to respond to man's desire to know Him, a desire He initiates. Daddy has no need, including Truth, He possess this body of knowledge and wisdom but we are the ones who need Truth. Truth applies to the spirit realm alone. I say this in Light of all physical things originated in the realm of God. To me, knowledge and wisdom must reveal the spirit man and his One True identity to himself, defined by his Source. Just like Scott wrote the other day, the revealing of the Son is in the revealing of the Father, herein is our identity. Truth must become our experience, our testimony, otherwise I personally question the validity of the information. I see things like my wife's health situation as a revealing of our Truth experience. So I know we are still very much citizens of the world and the crossing must continue without becoming distracted by the mind's questions about why this or that aint happening. Such mental activity only delays the realization of what He has for us, that is for one who knows the spirit. For those who have no concept of themselves as spirit, they may become like the seven sons of Sciva messing around in a realm they have not committed to, only knowing its operation without knowing Him. I think much of the church is right there today, possessing a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof. I know I was surely that way when I quit going. Concerning her health, she will live and not die and will declare the works of Jehovah Rapha. He is the One Who has established the relationship with us as Healer. She and I are making a rapid transition at this point. We are amazed at where we are now as spirit looking back just a couple months ago. Gradually we can both see how we are gaining control of the carnal mind, renewing it to agree with and serve the Spirit. This is a measure of the Life of the Son of Jehovah Rapha. To the Israelites and all their contemporaries He was known as the Living God. Unlike dead idols, Jehovah answered His people who cried to Him and He delivered them. Everyone saw the results. He has not changed. ----- Original Message ----- From: JCLMWest@aol.com To: wfarrell1@austin.rr.com ; secretofnym@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:57 PM Subject: Re: I sent this just a bit ago ...
I can't speak for Scott, but I feel he would agree with me, but I/we can't teach you anything. You can glean from what we write about but we can't teach you anything. The reason we can't teach you anything is because we don't see truth in its totality. If I tried to tell you what the number seven means how could I since my knowledge is very limited and trapped within space and time. I would only be doing a dis-service to you because if I tried to teach you something as being true you would no longer look further. If I try and pass off what I see as truth, my words will become the walls and roof of the structure that will keep you imprisoned in my perception of truth. Scott and I may see similar truths, but we understand them differently. We come from very different backgrounds, lives, personal experiences, as you and I do. It is enough that you now know that there is a language hidden in the scriptures... What are you going to do about it. Please forgive me if I have given you the impression that I learned this language based on my personal will and from another man, this did not happen. This word spoke to me, God taught me, not a man. When Scott writes in sort of a free writing mode, making statement that seem unrelated at first glance, however they must have been related in Scott's mind when he wrote them. I read them with intensity, I am not going to understand all of what he says, but what does happen is that I get seeds planted on the inside of me that broadens the truth that is being born on the inside of me. It is my hope that I do the same for him and you. For instance Scott sent you an email the other day, he sent me a copy as well. In this email he made the statement that nakedness is not a garden enclosed... I was floored by this simple statement, it was wonderfully true. I have pondered what nakedness means and I have pondered for many years the Garden enclosed revealing, but I never put the two together. I was instructed in this email. It was God, not Scott trying to teach me or anyone. Scott didn't set out to teach me anything he simply wrote what was in his heart and that one little phrase became a powerful truth on the inside of me. Your heart is revealed in the search. What you do with it is between you and God. All I can do is write whatever I write,as well as Scott or anyone else you interface with. If it blesses you then great, receive whatever it is you receive. There is a parable where a man who owns a field and sows good seed in his field. An enemy comes along and sows tares mixing in with the good seed. Everyone simply blows the enemy off as Satan, but if I teach you the language of God without drawing you into the heavenlies like Jesus did, I become like the Apostles in the Epistles teaching heavenly truths to the masses making them spiritually lazy. If I teach you a heavenly truth without drawing you into the heavenlies I am planting a seed that won't bear fruit or tares. I now become guilty of planting tares in your ground and mixing my tares in with your good seed. I become the tail of the dragon casting down a third of the stars. I now become an enemy of God. This thing I will not do. I know you meant well by asking, but you see where I/We are coming from? In a message dated 4/4/2012 8:54:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wfarrell1@austin.rr.com writes: I am thinking the very same thing, very good. This went inside me. Well, how about one or both of you give me some basic language lessons? I would greatly appreciate the insight. Sorry, words suck. We all agree on that so let's just saying it the best we can. ----- Original Message ----- From: JCLMWest@aol.com To: secretofnym@cox.net ; wfarrell1@austin.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: Re: I sent this just a bit ago ...
Very good Word. I enjoyed in it greatly. You and I (Scott) have talked about many of these things in the past, your expansion of nakedness is not a garden enclosed was great, this email expanded my understanding of things I have seen in the past. Great Word. This is how God broadens our path. I have already stated why I don't read the Epistles. My reason is not because I think there is a sinister act of the Apostles, specifically Paul. As I have said before, I am focused on the revealing of the Garden enclosed revealing and of all things being drawn into one. One of the things I began to see was that hidden in the Word was a language. I see it as the language of God. I have spent the last twenty years learning this language and at present I am like a little child in understanding it. Many Christians and Bible scholars believe that all mankind spoke the same language and that at the tower of Babel, God separated mankind by confusing their languages. I see it a little differently. As you read the genealogy of Noah and his sons you will see that as they break down the various lines from Noah on down that the scriptures declare they spoke different languages. You can read this for yourself. I am drawn into the belief that at the tower of Babel the language that was cast down or brought into confusion was the language of God. When all mankind understood the language of God, humanity was unstoppable. Too me the language of God is like the Tree of Life. In the Garden of Eden, when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit "God" quickly removed Adam and Eve from the garden before they ate of the Tree of Life. Humanity ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil at the tower of Babel. God confused their understanding of the language of God for the very reason, He removed Adam and Eve from the Garden and placed a Cherubim with a flaming sword to guard the path or way to the Tree of Life. Too me the two acts are equivalent. The language of God is the Tree of Life. Wisdom, knowledge and understanding are all around us if we simply understand the language of God. All of creation is speaking to us, but we can't hear or understand it. The Bible in its imperfection is the dictionary for the "Language of God." When you see the Scriptures as a dictionary, then one begins to understand that there are no contradictions in the Bible, just different Revelations of the same truth. I only point this out because as one begins to learn the language of God, the Scriptures take on a whole new meaning. There are many opinions out there as to whether one should read the New Testament or not. I can only speak for myself. As I began to see the language of God unfold in the Old Testament (Tenach) I also saw this language revealed in the Gospels, and the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ (Revs.), but not in the Epistles. As one begins to learn the language of God then one begins to see that the Cross Jesus hung on is the same dimensions as Noah's Ark (I will explain if you want too much to write here). There is no judgement of sin in realm of the masculine, so how did Jesus die on the cross? Well, we see that at the sixth hour darkness or feminine came over the land and at the ninth hour (three hours later) in the midst of darkness he cried out "My God, My God, why has thou forsaken Me." He died, in the realm of the feminine, darkness, wilderness, in the realm of the without, in a deep sleep born out of laziness. When the woman with an issue of blood thinks within herself that if she just touches the hem of His garment she will be healed... She manifested the pomegranate, that hung at the hem of the priests robe. A pomegranate and a gold bell hung all the way around the hem of the priests robe. So when she got her mind, or wisdom, knowledge and understanding inline with the realm where all your needs are met according to His riches in glory, she manifested the pomegranate. This wisdom is more precious than rubies (Read Proverbs)... The seeds of a pomegranate look like rubies. Read Song of Solomon, your temples are like a piece of pomegranate behind your veil (Your mind, will, and intellect is on the other side of your temple). When the woman touched the hem of Jesus' garment she became the pomegranate, when she touched His hem, we could spiritually hear the ding of a golden bell as she was healed. Most Christians or anyone else for that matter will never see what I just revealed here, because they only see the Word of God as a Book of stories revealing the historical knowledge of all the Patriarchs in the Bible, This is the way of laziness and being cast into a deep sleep. This revealing is the "without" revealing. This revealing simply compartmentalizes truth so that there are many mansions in our Father's house, so Jesus has to go and prepare a place for us... No walls, no doors, no barriers... No religion, no denominations, no dualism, no dialectics, no Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. I no longer see the Word of God in a linear fashion. I see the Word of God as a Book of Parables and Proverbs. Noah's Ark is a revealed parable or proverb. Not some big ole boat that saved humanity. I don't argue with people who want to believe this way. Believe what you want. For me to debate anything I see in the Word, places me in the realm of dualism, dialectics, and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This is the realm of the feminine, not the realm of the masculine. I don't make any claims that I have arrived. You see one final thought about the language of God. Let me give you one more example that imprisons all humanity. An opinion is a river (Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), it is neither truth or a lie. All humanity who is bound by the river Euphrates, sees only perceived truth or their river of understanding. A river is a narrative or a story, that grew out of nothing, based on the consensus that one identifies with. What is taught in the church system today is simply a narrative based on the consensus the individual church goer believes to be true. What is taught in the church system or any other religious dogma is a river, or a narrative... Again it's a blend or mixture of seeming truth and untruths as well. A river has a right and left bank... When Jesus burst forth out of the Jordan when He was baptized, he didn't simply fulfil some mechanical act we call baptism. He revealed to humanity that bursting forth out of the river Jordan which is a revealing of death, that an absolute truth was born out of perceived truth. Notice what the scriptures says when He is baptized. 10And immediately, coming up £from the water, He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove. Can we say the windows of heaven opened and the great deep burst forth out of the Jordan, in the form of Jesus the Christ? In this one man a truth or flood of truth would overcome the world, and He/It has. Let me build on the river as revealed in the "Language of God." Rain drops from clouds and waters the land. The land begins to direct the excess water into small little brooks, at this level the water is drinkable, and the little brooks begin to merge with bigger tributaries, and then on to rivers, the water becomes less and less potable the farther it flows away from it source, till if reaches a point you can no longer drink it. The next thing you know you have a raging Mississippi river which is undrinkable that is emptying out into the sea, which is a revealing of the dwelling place of the dead. As one begins to learn the Language of God, the garden enclosed revealing unfolds before them and then one begins to see a truth being born out of the midst, not some linear path that ends in death.
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Post by x141 on Jan 15, 2013 12:18:27 GMT
There is a path, as it is walked that brings us from a God who is measured to us, to one who is without measure to us in the relationship we have as him. There is not any place where he is not, if there was he would be no less the devil he had become to us. To see anything/anyone as less, regardless of where the process that is unto death has drawn them, is to confess or believe, have the perception of the Truth that becomes a truth/nakedness/light of our own making and the realm of two or duality or a judgment that is unto death or the process that births a lie in our perception, that somehow God does not fill all things. When we rule over the process we can see past the process in others and become a tree of life to them (without cost) rather than a revealing of their nakedness (which turns us into a fool by the mouth or a pit that brings forth confusion even though it looks good for food). We are of those who are naked and not ashamed or live in cities without walls and are not afraid, ones who do not draw back unto perdition, these three statements all speaking of the soul or the garden enclosed. The feast of love is open to all without cost or with a cost/judgment we levee against them when we deny the truth to our own hurt we ourselves becoming bound to the lie and are a Satan to the one we have pierced.
I have found in reality that the truth becomes cast down to us the moment we try to keep it, as if we need to remember it, as if all things are not ours to begin with and we become finite and measured in the pursuit.
Abraham was in the promise but when he saw famine in the land his perception drove him to Egypt where truth to him became crucified, a garden scenario.
The OT is the law of life revealed by the man who was a living soul who did not keep the commandment of his father. Faith is a perception ... I'll have mine without measure, all things are of God.
I look at creation and despite the vassness filled with wonderment I say, Is this the best God can do, and the reply is, No this is the best you could do.
The big bang is just another one of those outward shadows in our perception of the truth that is now being birthed in us. It's a day that burns with fire. There is no death in the path any longer, just the constant (the universe is speeding up, not slowing down) of increase. This is the just measure and what is the measure in us. I find I no longer disagree with anything, both good and evil becoming the same to me, like I have have folded up one (garment) and put on another.
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Post by stein on Jan 15, 2013 13:24:21 GMT
glad to see this message from you here, i dont recall all you have spoken of here before, but this is outstanding bright and clear.
yes we speed up, i want new music, i want new food and i want new shoes as well. evethough i dont need either of them.
to have your own name and identity or character is my own set in mind, or i would love to tell you also, but i speak for me.
for the rest love is the key and the universe is infinite, numbers dont matter, depending under the circumstances they describe.
we never fold up, so i guess you keep folding out, but is has none to do with old or new. though we want so much, i sure do.
it is one life given in you, that has its own existence, the same for me, and we got all yes, that too.
gr.
(was i good te hear?)
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Post by x141 on Jan 16, 2013 12:00:58 GMT
Yes you were, is there not only one who is good ... and we his offspring ... we are good by default much like darkness is bad by default when God said he saw the light (the perception given us by these words).
The bottomless pit and the increase (kingdom) that has no end are the same. Same woman, different perception of what is truth and in the end The Truth. One is one that descends in our perception ... death/measurment the other ascending. One without, one within. THe one within reveals where we are or I am. Who you are is where you are, you are I am.
There is going to be famine in the land again, and it will be in the midst of plenty and not partake.
There are two images, one without one within, one is death/measured (shadow of the path back) one is life. You must forsake the one in oreder to see the other. The narrow that few find, it is a perception that is the Truth.
The more I see the more thankful I was granted this life to live. All things without, at the moment seem geared toward causing a great abandement or forsaking in the land/soul, a leaving of one perception to the perception of the great rest that is coming or appearing in us.
The forsakening is the opposite of driving all the inhabitants from your land. Law of sin and death, law of life. Same law different perception.
Salvation appears to be a process, instead it is the unveiling of that which has always been and never a time when it was not. Each of us given an I am/white stone in no way the same as another yet of the same father/God, therefore one.
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Post by x141 on Jan 16, 2013 13:42:08 GMT
The foundation (salvation or that which entered beyond the veil), of the healing of the soul is I am. This happens in us, and if anything, makes not one greater than the other rather the one that serves greater, as an elder that serves a younger but even in this is measurement and of a lie, when we hold this perception of another. It's of a, not seeing him, therefore a judgment that is not unto life.
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Post by x141 on Jan 16, 2013 15:06:40 GMT
To think that you are mot makes you not even though you are, and becomes the measure whereby we measure others, or see others in.
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Post by stein on Jan 16, 2013 17:12:44 GMT
i do not believe in death until after my body dies, for now the time being. for the rest all goes on. you say there will be famine in the world but not part take, in which i dont understand or even disagree, as you say the foundation has been layed and it has been layed by which you can not name in words, other then good words. all good is to last, the past way back of which you speak, i hear you does not really exist. there is ancient knowledge though, which humans have formed into words cifers etcetera. i keep it up high and believe in it, but if there is any need at all and god wants his own way, he will go his own way, so he the speakable god, needs nothing from a human, unless words. perception is a irrelevant issue, though people see much as what they call their perception. perception is required with eyes, and ears even also in another step. and all more, that comes with a living human being. see i choose to see and to hear, and to live and to breath, but all this is perception. when i hear of a person that has truly seen with the eyes something else then humans and their perceptions i would love to meet that person. there is a no go for me here in case someone or somebody is blind. then yes we or i will not stick to this for me. and heard only good with the ears, my eyes went all blurry when i read your post x141. but i have felt to much and still hope to do so on. for the rest i take along all good, as ancient as it it is, famine or not famine, the light shines bright, and fire is the true source of it, i tell you without a doubt and i gladly die for it, god that is. the unspeakable, the mystical, the present, ah believe me a word will not rule over a sight, i see. that joy may be. and no one ever to get hurt, not now not ever. and each to take its own penaltys.x (3 feasts) there is no understanding in death, so i think, so i go on, and so do i. any way.
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Post by stein on Jan 16, 2013 17:21:31 GMT
i literally die for this in words though as i say now. it is all i got..... any understanding comes from the foundation(s). though yes one human may not need another human to live its own life. i am greatfull for being though. but understanding and the perceptions that come with it are to be individual to me. like i just did say.
even the birds see or hear and the.................
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Post by x141 on Jan 16, 2013 22:07:42 GMT
The famine will be what the soul becomes fat with when it forms it's perception of it's son from that which is without ... Jesus brought forth 100 fold as Isaac did in Egypt which is where one goes to during famine, where truth is crucified or becomes cast down in our thinking.
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Post by x141 on Jan 16, 2013 22:27:08 GMT
(Things you already know)
The door into the earth is the feminine/woman or our soul. It is through this garden not enclosed that God became satan to us or our adversary and our nakedness was revealed, and this is the door that he opened and the door that he shuts, it is the mouth of a pit, where the one river parted into four. What is bound sealed and shut in are these four (of the earth) rivers/narrative's he became to us, the serpent, old dragon, satan, the devil.
What manifests heaven on earth is our perception, this is the mediator in us, our soul, the mediator between heaven and earth, when enclosed it becomes masculine, where there is no sin, where we are naked and not ashamed, the place where our fruit remains. This is the same truth of the Holy Spirit, Spirit of Truth, comforter etc. The birthing of the truth in us was given by Jesus as the masculine or him, when he is come.
Peter first measured the spirit being poured out upon all flesh as only the jews, he never ate of the perception of the heavenly (even of the three on the roof that day, even when he saw it with his own eyes, somehow, it was still not enough, he had to get them dunked in water to), therefore to him things remained both clean and unclean. The duality of pentecost, the picture of process without a jubilee or a garden that was not enclosed.
We think that we know and therefore become naked, not seeing the shame of our nakedness. When the people/thoughts/words are numbered there must be a sacrifice for every soul or a nakedness is revealed in the first born and the law of our mother which becomes judgment brings a rest unto death, regardless of all this, without fail, it is all of order, nothing is out of place.
When we understand the process we begin to rule over it and by ruling over it can see how it rules over others and begin to see as he sees, which is as a free indeed.
Concerning salvation ... we are in the morning of the third day or the raising up in his sight, or the seeing how he sees. You can not see as he sees unless you are him and God does not labor to be.
Without forsaking the concept (for a lack of a better word), of the two seeds/gender, etc. you can enter in but not remain.
The war is not over the things you do but who you are and is defined by where you are, the perception of where you are. This Life the soul can not contain but in quiteness and silence reflect the light of the Truth. If we keep the law of our mother and not obey the commandment of our father the process (between our ears) leads to death. To eat and not to eat both are a death. To obey the commandment of our father turns the process or the law of our mother into life, it is in this increase that has no end that we live, eveywhere word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, which is life and cannot be contained or measured for it is not of labor. The identity of the seed that fell to the ground is, the son of man is the son of God, in this relationship the man is feminine or soul and reflects the Truth of the son. Jesus the man had no light of his own, no words of his own, but Jesus was not two but one and finished this truth by being enclosed in the father or returning to where he came out of and where we are presently.
We must be set free from his word (Bible/Adam etc.) by being set free in his Word, in this Word which is Life.
Is this all commentary, most certainly, words spoken in this realm can not contain what is within us, the truth is love and evil is the ignorance of this love, but only this love reveals itself and is not to be had by labor. You do not labor for what you already are. This is the rest where by he causes the weary to rest. It was finished before it began and what makes this truth to us in us is that we simply believe that it is and it becomes this to us.
Many believe that by thought you can add a cubit to your stature. Knowledge is gain and of the soul, the place of measurement and where Adam found himself that day, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but like all things in this realm, it is dual.
We are naked when we are born, and in the process of time, revealed as the field (but one of the many, ten thousand times ten thousands), our life becomes to us the sum of our knowledge, and in the end naked we return. This is the path of knowledge revealed in flesh, it is the broadway. It is found from without. This is not the way of salvation, it is the path to it.
The seventh is not the end, but it is the sealing of the pit, where the first seven (creative days) is the opening of it.
We are in the morning of the seventh day now, our 144,000 are being sealed and our pit closed our swords beaten into plowshares, warfare no longer, as we drink of the water of life in us without cost.
Prior to the cross, to us, the process that is revealed as the field has not been redeemed.
The process, being that we are in the morning of the third day which equates to the seventh and the perception thereof, is now unto life, but it is a place where we freely eat without labor.
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Post by x141 on Jan 17, 2013 12:08:46 GMT
These things, when they come out of our mouth (for we are as our father is) become measured like a truth cast down, which becomes a lie in our perception, a listening to the adversary or the serpent, that old dragon, satan, that Truth is to be gained and there are many anti-christs willing to show us the way being they have not entered in either, their father (which gives us our perception of who we are) being a devil to them.
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