one believe.

[stein]

i was thinking lots and i figured that there is just one believe. and there is many religions and branches bothering this one believe.

oh well any thoughts upon this?

[noxot]

I think that there may be some elements that are true in other religions besides christianity but jesus said that he is the light the way and ect and so it can not be that they are all true.

many atheist think that all religions are the same.

so I look at other beliefs as distortions (if they do not line up with jesus) but part of my problem is that it is so hard to hear God speak the light plain and clear since the bibles says we see through a dark glass. and I see so many christians with different beliefs and how could it be that all views are correct when they differ so much from each other?

i am not immune and believe I am nothing more than a distortion of the truth. I heard from a wise man that some stars shine brighter, some not so bright. I don't really know what I am but I believe I have fragments of the truth. i don't count myself as a star.

[stein]

maybe it is jesus inside all those believes, jesus said all is within me. so that means he is within all as well.

now if there is really things going against jesus, then it's a different religion indeed. which is the point yes. one believe but many religions speaking different about it.

i do think it would be unfair to say that a person with the believe '3' doe apply to the one believe. and a person with the believe '5' doesn't. that wouldn't be right. that would show prejudice en be prejudicing.

which i guess is for me the last thing i want to do when it comes to an-others religion or believe within that religion.

only if it would be a believe which is the exact opposite as mine, then that would bother me. then i would ask myself is it a religious difference or is it else.

religion is not the same as believe. believe doesn't need religion. religion does need believe.
religion is inferior to believe even-though most religions claim to have the one believe.

but to for a second leave away the tensions there now may be due to what each religion believes. perhaps it's better to look at what they do have in commen or what can take care of that.

to take all those fragments together wouldn't that then be the one believe. the one truth to believe in?


i like your view, but i am immediately thinking about the parts of distortion which oppress this one believe.

i guess we indeed need to look at what combines all religions and perhaps also humanism since that's also a form of believing (what's right).

but for now they still oppose each other a lot. and that is waht needs to be solved. but this can only be done by new input i think. i be glad then knowing most religions left option(s) open to be fulfilled.

the question then i guess is what is needed for that?

i think it's primarily;
jews,muslims and christians against each other.
the other religions arent against each other and neither against these three. they dont even try to carry out a message of their religion, it's more daily life there, i've read. none of them neither have one book or so.

now after thinking of what i write now the problem isn't that big. and of-course only plays when there's a disagree.

but for the future for them to unite back into having the one believe on top, instead of having disagreeing on top, i pray.

[noxot]

ah yes now I see it is like, different things of religion are confused and they fight each other. as different nations sort of.

but really what is more important? it is, being with God, being Spiritual. Loving....

Jesus Christ I know is the head, but many people use that knowledge as a weapon, and so they stab others and they get stabbed themselves. I think Jesus came not to make a better religion, He came to restore all of us to the Father, and he came to us, being the perfect example. we see how there were others that believed in the books he quotes from, but you see it was against Christ, even though they used his own books!

but Jesus said, he came to bring a sword right? HIS SWORD IS LOVE AND IF YOU PEOPLE DON'T HAVE LOVE FOR GOD FIRST AND THEN ALL OTHERS THEN YOUR RELIGION IS THE DEVIL, NO MATTER WHAT NAME IT IS. but i also think that God has made some things very special, like the gospels. because its like this. a fragment can only speak so much about God, but when you are whole, you can speak the whole picture correctly. but some people just think they have the whole picture already, because they saw Jesus, but they don't even know that they are walking in a circle instead of going to the promised land.

but we are all children of God, so we are the same thing that God is, God. but when we are blind, we don't see that God makes us, and so we are something less, as it would seem. because of the disorder or things, which would prove that we can not be right on our own, but rather have to be one with God. but when we are blind or like small little children, we can't know all things and we confuse things.

but as for this thing called "religion" I see the same thing with just... you could say with each human being. that we have some thing i call a "fragment" ( we are the fragment ) and then we have, God. but when we are fully mature in God, that is when we have no more a fragment, or shadow of things, but a better picture of how things are. its like I am a puzzle piece, and God is the one who, if I am put into him. then that is when I am made whole.

and we each are this way, not all with each other as each a puzzle making the whole picture, but rather it is more... like we are each a puzzle piece and God is the entire picture. and we are each a unique picture that God makes of us. but it just gets more and more and better and better with God.